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Why ever go Nomad? It may not display this or other websites correctly. As only knowing enough about cans as having one issued and using it for CQB and Recce patrols, I appreciate the detailed info. Choose your poison!…” its not full auto rated. Nothing really to add at this time. The QD system is design perfection. I’ve never handled a nomad but have sandman suppressor and it’s built like a tank. If you search hard enough on youtube you can find videos of people shooting each to get a better idea of what "tone" they are. Joined Dec 19, 2016 Messages 1,352 Location Winston Salem. Don’t see much from their website. About AR15.COM. Dec 14, 2017 #1 So I bought a 22 can from Tar Heel State a few weeks ago and think I want to go ahead and get the process started for a .30 cal can as well. We find out. As with the Nomad model, the Sandman E-Brake accepts all Dead Air end caps–though in this case, we think that the addition of a flash hider endcap would mostly just serve for aesthetics. For the kind of shooting I do the difference in toughness really doesn't matter, mostly hunting/LR bolt gun and slow fire AR, my cans never get up to the ~800 deg level where Ti has problems. Im brand new to suppressors and nfa stuff, so i probably wont understand anything more than basic terms. So first off, a nomad, keymo adapter, and flash hider will run me about 1100 before stamp it seems, and a sandman S is about 300 cheaper with flash hider. Right now I'm going back and forth between the Dead Air Sandman-S and the Surefire Socom556-RC2. It also comes off when you want.”. One hand removal in just seconds. The Nomad series bring plenty versatility. Hope it helps. In MAC’s 7.62 video the back to back testing of the Sandman L and Omega showed that the Omega was actually 4dB quieter with a .308 bolt gun which adding it all up winds up being 9~10dB from the Omega to the L to the S (Disclaimer: this is clearly an overstated estimate of the gap between S and Omega). for 5.56 I'm planning to purchase my first suppressor in the next few weeks and I'm still having a tough time deciding on the best option. 300BLK Subs, 6.5CM and 300WSM. My main concern with threads is the potential to loosen with heat and recoil. I plan to buy 5.56 caps for which ever i choose for my 14.5 P&W rifle, and other rifles later on. The QD system is design perfection. It’s a beast. https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Dead-Air-teasing-new-lightweight-modular-rifle-can-Nomad-30/20-493205/?page=1. I've had my head down working on our new taper mount, and times are just crazy busy in general. Page / 8 Next Page. I see what youre saying. The flash hider front cap optimizes your Sandman or Nomad-30 silencer by reducing the front cap size to your caliber. Yes. Glad to see the post took on a life it’s own with a little heated debate even. I intended to get the sandman s until someone suggested the nomad. the nomad on the other hand cant take the heat.

The Sandman-S is the shorter version suppressor in Dead Air’s notorious Sandman 7.62mm silencer line. Sandman S with the Nomad version of the E-brake on it. First Suppressor - Sandman-S vs ? re: Silencerco Omega Vs dead air sandman S Posted by boatless2 on 10/2/17 at 12:59 am to Ice Cream Sammich Well after watching a bunch of YouTube videos, and talking with y’all, the dead air was consistently louder decibel wise than the thunder beast, silencerco omega, … Mike Pappas, Founder of Dead Air Armament and Director of New Product Development, set out to further the legacy of the Sandman series with a new lightweight suppressor designed specifically for the everyday user. Reviews; Write a Review; At 6.8 inches in length and a weight of 18.5 oz the Sandman-S ™ is the perfect cross-over suppressor for your 5.56mm, 300BLK, and 7.62 platforms, even up to .300 Win Mag. Ive got a sandman l. from my understanding a few of the differences are the materials they used and the dimensions. We seek to expand general understanding of the laws collectively referred to as the National Firearms Act and their implications for gun owners and citizens of today. If you’re not shooting FA/SBR regularly the Sandman is a bit overkill in my opinion. My only experience is with the Surefire issued cans. I just put an ultra 7 gen 2 in jail last week, but I was in the same dilemma, I looked really hard at the Dominus, and the Nomad Ti as well as the ultra 5 & 7. They haven't tested the Nomad Ti in any of their videos yet, but they do test the regular Nomad 30 against the ultras, and the Dominus. 300 Blackout (Supersonic) Sandman-S. Sorry I missed this. https://www.reddit.com/r/NFA/comments/acjbvv/please_help_me_choose_between_a_dead_air_sandman/?st=JS3KV9R0&sh=2025a35b. You can just get away with a lesser NRR rating. The stellite baffles handle erosion better than any other material out there. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The Sandman S is 17.7 oz and thinner where the Nomad is 14 oz (in direct thread). Hansohn summed it up, the nomad is the right choice for 90% of people (lighter, quieter, modular mounting, strong enough). My Ti has never come loose on anything I have attached it to. But naked Ti is sexy when it gets hot and starts to turn colors. Cassandra updated 11 months, 4 weeks ago 2 Members ... I’m really torn between the nomad and the Vox S, but I don’t want to have to use wipes all the time for a great experience. Although it is shorter than the Sandman-L, it still provides excellent performance across 5.56mm, 300BLK, and 7.62 platforms. Suppressors, Short Barreled Rifles, Short Barreled Shotguns, Destructive Devices, Any Other Weapons, and Machine Guns are all welcome here. I just ordered the Nomad-L w E-brake as my first can. Silencer Shop and Mike Pappas Dead Air Nomad and Sandman - SHOT Show 2020 - Duration: 13:21. That means your Nomad-30 can have the same robust and proven quick attachment method as our Sandman models, giving you the best of both worlds. Anyone have other recommendations. That's right. The Nomad is an ultra-versatile suppressor designed by Dead Air Armament to meet the needs of the everyday user. Yea, they seem like the most comfortable. But a Nomad E-Brake on a Sandman looks rather… phallic. Hopefully we can get some insight. That being said, as an average hunter who does not own sbr or auto rifles (at this time), i'm researching/looking for something that meets my current needs and I think the Ti may be the "perfect fit" as it is light and I will strictly use it only for semi-auto and hunting rifles. Other than length and weight (they are almost the same, with the nomad being a small bit shorter but wider, and slightly less weight), how does the performance compare? I was leaning towards the Nomad. The Nomad is more than tough enough for the vast majority of shooters, and in fact, I would personally recommend the Nomad series of suppressors to most shooters over the Sandman series. If you’re planning on running the suppressor on a truck gun or walking through woods the Sandman S to me is more study and has a smaller profile then the nomad. The nomad is lighter as noted and I think the tone is better on 308 with the nomad. When I shoot subs out of my Rem CSR with the sandman its movie quiet. We love silencer owners and we don't believe they should be left in the cold. I guess I need to turn on notifications or something. *Accessories such as Key-Mo and E-Brake shown in images are not included. Still been trying to get my hands on the ebrake which helps even more. Weight and diameter are the big differences which come from the materials used in construction. I thought they'd be pretty similar and warrant some comparison discussions but I was pretty surprised to find almost nothing. The use of NOMAD™, DEAD AIR ARMAMENT™, and SOUND MODERATION TECHNOLOGIES® on this page are merely to advertise the sale of compatible parts or components. I could run Key-Mo on my Nomad, but it's just too heavy and bulky, not the best option out there for most uses IMO. If it wasn't such a hassle I would consider trading my Nomad 30 off for the Ti, but it is what it is. Give all 4 pages of that thread a read through and pay attention to specific posts form user “Mageever”. The Nomad is just a touch shorter as well. This suppressor is 6.8 inches long and 17.7 ounces, providing shooters a compact and maneuverable addition to their host firearm, with impressive performance on 300BLK, 5.56, and 7.62. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The Nomad 30 was louder and less comfortable to shoot than the L and the Sandman. The light weight titanium and stainless silencer is intended to go everywhere you go on whatever host rifle your day requires. Shop for Low Price Brownells Mpo Ar15 Com And Dead Air Nomad 30 Vs Sandman S Site Www Ar15 Com . Thanks for the input and I concur with your statement that while cans help in reducing decibels, ear protection is vital as well. and the sandman series is built full auto rated. I could see if it was a dedicated can the direct thread would be nice, but if ive got a grand plus piece of equipment im going to find every way possible to use it. They have been testing the nomad with 3 different versions: a new one, slightly used, and one with several thousand rounds through it. And I was under the impression that dead air’s patent ensures that only the dead air muzzle brake is keyed to force it to be mounted the same way every time, so there’s no change of zero. These are the cans i'm considering as well. The Sandman S is 17.7 oz and thinner where the Nomad is 14 oz (in direct thread). Can Cerakote just about anything. On the other hand, I think you could mark the suppressor and brake in such a way that you line it up the same way every time. Otherwise, the Nomad line is able to adapt to most scenarios very well. Will have to look into EA. Reply. The Nomad 30 is a nice size/performance combo for those uses, and I like mine. Watch Mike and Mikeith talk more about the Nomad-30. Using our 13.9″ TRACK 2.0 5.56mm barrel with a pinned and welded Dead Air Flash Hider meeting the 16″ overall length ATF requirement, you will have a suppressor ready rifle right out of the box that will perfectly complement your choice of the Dead Air Sandman-K, Sandman-S, or NOMAD suppressor! If you had to shoot it indoors, like a house, which would you prefer to be using? “The KeyMount mounting system is welded into it and it doesn't come loose on the muzzle device when shooting. Thats all i got. At 17.3 oz and 6.8 inches long, it is ideal for shooters who value a suppressor with a smaller profile. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I … You are using an out of date browser. I read an article about it, probably something dead air put out. Keep it coming. Of course, you can still interchange them. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Looking to get a suppressor for my 300wsm and 308. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. You must log in or register to reply here. Sniper’s Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. While we didn't think it could get any better than a Sandman-K, S, L or Ti, we were pleasantly surprised when this little silencer wandered into our shop! Uh no...I have personally melted down a nomad in a destruction test... it's full auto rated I can assure you. Tom in Oregon says: June 24, 2020 at 13:26 . The Nomad is 1.735" in diameter, with a length of 6.5", weighs 3.7 ounces less than the Sandman S, direct thread out of the box (5/8" included and 1/2" adapters extra), and takes the Sandman end caps. The female thread pitch on the inside of the Nomad is compatible with the thread pitch on those QD adapters. Buying now I'd go with the Ti as it has the length and performance of the original Nomad with a 30% weight reduction... Definitely a plus for anything you are hanging on your muzzle and toting around, possibly swinging and shooting unsupported. Nomad vs Vox S vs ?? I went Nomad-L plus EBrake for better sound suppression and recoil and muzzle rise reduction. difference in materials. So the welding might address a potential issue that could arise without it, but I don’t know for sure. You can add the KeyMo adapter and the Nomad will be about the same weight, just larger diameter. Does the nomad have a better noise reduction, tone, or anything else over the S that warrants the price difference? I would say my sandman has more of a mid range sound to it, with less or a high frequency pop. I apologize if format is weird, I’m on mobile. Dead Air Sandman-S 7.62mm QD Mount At 6.8 inches in length and a weight of 18.5 oz the Sandman-S™ is the perfect cross-over suppressor for your 5.56mm, … With the Sandman S screwed to the end, a similar five shot string dropped to 2620 fps on average with a SD of 5.7. I believe he gives some first hand comparisons and advice between the Nomad and Sandman S a few places. Which can would y’all recommend, maybe even above these two? Apologies for the noob question. Both the Nomad and Vox-S seem like great cans, but I can't help but think if EA released a "Vox-M" with a ~2" modular front section on top of the standard Vox-S length they would corner this market completely. One hand removal in just seconds. Long and heavy. sandman is smaller in diameter. Cant really find anything on google directly comparing these 2, only the nomad and the L or Ti. Is the Nomad TI "louder" than the Nomad-L? I don't have any info for you, but just wanted to pop in and say thanks cause I had also searched this and came up pretty empty handed. The Dead Air Nomad-30 ships with a fixed mount (at the time of this writing either 5/8x24mm or 1/2x28mm), which definitely gives you a shorter OAL than you might expect–falling in-between the Sandman-S and the Sandman-K Weight and diameter are the big differences which come from the materials used in construction. It really ends up depending on what you want out of it and your end goal. 20 thoughts on “ Suppressor Performance Database ” Edwin April 19, 2016 at 5:36 pm. but not everyone on the interwebs agree with you. The Sandman S is QD out of the box, it has a 1.5" diameter, a length of 6.8", and it is build like a tank. Can anyone really break out the difference between the dead air nomad and sandman for me. That means your Nomad-L can have the same robust and proven attachment method as our Sandman models, giving you the best of both worlds. Silencers (Page 1 of 8) AR-15 AK-47 Handgun Precision Rifles Armory Training Competitive Shooting General Outdoors Archery Hometown Industry.

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